The GUS Daily Digest Thursday, 11 May 1995 Volume 22 : Number 009 Today's Topics: Non-Native support for Terminal (Microsoft's Doing!!) Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #7 MegaEm -and Korg.. Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #8 GUS & CDROM Ultrasound Internet Archive Services - Latest Validation Period NMI Problem TV observations Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #8 (Fwd) Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #8 -=:NO NEW PATCHES?????:=- CD-ROM audio cable Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kobus Jooste" Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 09:56:39 GMT+2 Subject: Non-Native support for Terminal (Microsoft's Doing!!) > From: Aaron Cameron > Is it just me, or does anybody else find it a little strange that TV does > NOT support the GUS natively? The gus is the undisputed best card for > playing tracker music, and TV uses tracker music. Do we get stunning > 16bit stereo 32 channel playback through the GUS? No, we get shitty 8bit > mono 2 channel playback through soundBastard emulation. My computer > locks up after about 2 minutes of play to boot. This is not good. That's right, I agree, I was wholy disgusted to see no native support.. But what can you expect from digpak drivers, Just hope the programmer of TV didn't get them from that Tricks of the Game Programming Guru's book! The Audio Machine or whoever did those drivers really should wake up and add native gus support. According to a press release of TV the lead rpogrammer comes from the Microsoft Flight simulator project, so it's no wonder that they only support the sound blaster standard range.. Microsoft brainwashes their programmers to only think of themselves and go with the standard, no matter how bad it might be.. So flame 3DRealms for being lazy to use Apogee's (although poor) native sound support and curse Microsoft for always crushing and plundering everybody else... P.s. the rest of the game is good though, especially the last 'trench' part... It works with MaxSBOS on the max, but the playback rate sucks and so does the mixing.. Koos ------------------------------ From: Sam Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 10:58:50 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #7 [apologies for long message but i hope it helps all these folks...] > A quicky, do V3.59 driver disk files contain the new Protected mode > Megaem and MAXSBOS that I've been hearing about, or are they in Beta > stage (or non-existent)? beta. File is mega303b.zip (or was when I got it from a local bbs). > U know how megaem 3.03b is not supposed to have sb emulation(i.e. > digitized sound) well, I ran it with games like systemshock and warcraft huh? It *is* supposed to have dig. sound! Just not FM. > Also is it possible to redo the GM patches? I have a Kprg X3 synth > sitting new to me. How hard is it for me to sample the gm sounds from it > and replace the gus max ones? Just a suggestion: you can use your midi interface instead of GUS for the GM bit. So if you use a librarian to rearrange the X3 voices to some kind of general midi order, that should/might work. ('Long as you remember to set channel 10 to a drums voice). (I haven't bothered doing this on our korg m1 though... my brother wrote the librarian we use and it didn't work when I tried it :< ) > hmm...does the gus max do chorus and reverb well? not at all. If you want reverb/chorus, use an effects unit. ( :> ) [dope and flight sound "tinny"] Too many channels. It shouldn't be tinny, though. Should be muffled. You lose high frequencies. Dope uses 28-channel MOD so the mixing is only 22khz. [mouse disappears in windows] We used to have this problem (actually it only occured in comms programs, prob. an IRQ conflict even though mouse/com are different IRQs). My dad has since upgraded to win95 and he informs me the problem's gone away (but the computer runs slower :< ) So I don't think the prob. was with the Gravis drivers. Sam ------------------------------ From: "Brian K. Dowtin" Date: Wed, 10 May 95 11:05:02 EDT Subject: MegaEm -and Korg.. To the person with the Korg keyboard and wanting to sample the sounds as patches in the GUS - it may be easier to select the output device in MegaEM as the GUS Midi out, and plug your Korg into the GUS - 00000010 'Brian ------------------------------ From: Matt@machine.demon.co.uk (Matt Robinson) Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 16:10:21 GMT Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #8 > Is it true that Gravis closed their BBS? Gravis have relocated their official europe BBS, I don't know the number offhand > And that they don't develop GUS anymore? I SERIOUSLY doubt that. > The fact that Terminal Velocity does not support the GUS is > not the fault of 3D Realms and Apogee. The game uses a digital > mixing technique and uses the standard Digpak driver. Gravis > wrote the GUS Digpak driver to work in conjunction with Ultramid. > Games such as Return to Zork and US Navy Fighter use these drivers > and all work with the GUS in "native" mode. 3DRealms uses version 3.4 > of the Digpak driver, while the Gravis driver is only version 3.2. Thus > this is why TV does not support the GUS. BY copying the GUS Digpak > driver to the TV directory and by running Ultramid, the TV installation > program will recognize the GUS and allow it to be chosen as an option. > Furthermore, the test sound option in the installation program also > works with the GUS and sound can be heared. However, when TV is run > using the 3.2 drivers, the game hangs before startup. > I have emailed Gravis about an update to these drivers but have not > yet sent a response. I'm reasonably sure that Gravis have released newer ones which don't require ULTRAMID at all. This was a while ago, so I don't know exact details or file names. > I've read the FAQ and found nothing useful so I turn to here. I'm trying > to connect my CD-Rom to my Revision 2.4 Ultrasound. I know that the > pin-outs go l-g-g-r, but can't manage to get any sound going. Am I > correct to assume that the pins should go on JP7 (labelled CD on the > card)? Am I doing something wrong? I've tried every combination. Have you tried running ULTRINIT -eo (enable output, that's what I had to do to get the CD to play on mine.) Matt - -- +-----------------------------------------------+------------------------------+ | Night comes quickly to the Pride Lands. | * RAD HOST (Lion King) | | The sky turns violet and shatters into stars. | * Ask me anything Lion King | | At this magic hour, Mufasa and his son | related. | | sit beneath the slowly turning galaxies, | * X-phile | | surrendering themselves to | * GUS user | | the rhythms of the nocturnal world. | The Mad semi-Frenchman (tm) | +-The Art of the Lion King----------------------+-----Matt@machine.demon.co.uk-+ ------------------------------ From: as5mcrai@ucsalf.ac.uk (mark craig 95) Date: Wed, 10 May 95 16:37 BST Subject: GUS & CDROM The Mitsumi Quad Speed FX-400 works very well with the GUS and it's cheap! (Idon't know the American price - UK price - 140 quid!) ------------------------------ From: Thomas Wong Date: 10 May 95 9:52 -0700 Subject: Ultrasound Internet Archive Services - Latest Validation Period GRAVIS ULTRASOUND INTERNET ARCHIVE SERVICES NEWS ============================================================================== NOTE: Ultrasound Internet Archive Services Listing has been moved to the end of this message. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Howdy all..... I will begin validation of the files in EPAS under the submit directory tonight. Hopefully, this will only take a week as usual. So don't be surprised if the files in the submit directory gets moved to the appropriate directory in the archive. I'll make an announcement when I'm done as usual. Thomas Wong. GUS Internet Archive Services Admin ------------------------------ From: "Rich" Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 13:09:11 +0000 Subject: NMI Problem I have the GUS Max installed on a Supermicro pentium 100 board that uses the OPTI Viper chipset. When I try to use any of the SBOS emulation I get an error that says the NMI procedure on this board is disabled. Any patches or fixes to the Non Maskable Interrupt problems for this chipset?? Other than that I love the GUS card, and really don't have too many problems running most of the games. - ---------------------------------------- ____ _ _ If ya ain't got / __ \ (_)____/ /_ dirt in your / /_/ // / ___/ __ \ beer you ain't / __, // / /__/ / / / at the RACES! /_/ |_/_/\___/_/ /_/ - ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: jday@bank-banque-canada.ca (Jim Day) Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 13:45:12 -0400 Subject: TV observations Hi all, Just thought I would share my experience with Terminal Velocity (shareware) and my GUSMAX. As it has already been pointed out elsewhere, TV has no native GUS support. I have MAXSBOS v. 0.21b, so I tried that. The setup program says GUS owners should choose SB Clone, from the menu. So I did. Everything seemed to work ok, (well, as ok as 8bit mono, 22khz can be). But after a few minutes it would crash. So I went back to the setup menu and selected SB Pro. This also worked, with about the same sound quality. (note: you CAN choose stereo but it's crippled at 11khz and sounds terrible). With SB Pro selected, it no longer crashed. Will the CD version have GUS support? Jim ------------------------------ From: "Jurassic Mark" Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 18:04:20 -0300 Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #8 >The games list (GLIST) gives Sam and Max as working with Megaem. I've >only been able to get music - very nice - but no sound effects or >speech. It's only the HD edition, but I understand the intro is good >with speech. I originally put that game in the list when I was running it (last year) and it came from personnal experience. It's the HD version, mind you. I solved the game with full digital sound and music all the way to the end. It was the latest MegaEM at that time. Jurassic Mark (Marc Y. Paulin) Mail: markus@nbnet.nb.ca - IRC: J-Mark WARPing and GUSsing!!! ------------------------------ From: "Jurassic Mark" Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 18:06:34 -0300 Subject: (Fwd) Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #8 Forwarded message: From: Self To: owner-gus-general-digest@mail.nws.orst.edu (The GUS Daily Digest),gus-general@gaia.ucs.orst.edu Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #8 Reply-to: markus@nbnet.nb.ca Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 18:04:47 >The games list (GLIST) gives Sam and Max as working with Megaem. I've >only been able to get music - very nice - but no sound effects or >speech. It's only the HD edition, but I understand the intro is good >with speech. I originally put that game in the list when I was running it (last year) and it came from personnal experience. It's the HD version, mind you. I solved the game with full digital sound and music all the way to the end. It was the latest MegaEM at that time. Jurassic Mark (Marc Y. Paulin) Mail: markus@nbnet.nb.ca - IRC: J-Mark WARPing and GUSsing!!! ------------------------------ From: emilr@ksnet.ksedb.no (Emil Rakoczy) Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 21:33:02 +0100 Subject: -=:NO NEW PATCHES?????:=- (Heard this one before?) I know this has nothing to do with GUS but..... I fooled you all, and it was reeeeaaaaaal phun. I don't regret a thing. Nothing. "Words are turds!" *****THE_FANCY_SIGNATURE****** * Realtime:Emil Rakoczy * * Nickname:Lurking Puppet * * IRC:Lurking * * E-Mail:emilr@ksnet.ksedb.no* ******To be expanded...******* ------------------------------ From: Malhavok@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 01:39:58 -0400 Subject: CD-ROM audio cable >The only connection between a CDROM and a GUS is an audio cable, if you want to play audio CDs and have the output emerge from the GUS - you still need the audio cable even if the CDROM is interfaced via the GUS. OK question. I see the CD-1 and CD-2 connections on my rev3.4 GUS, but the cable that comes with my Mitsumi double speed CD-ROM won't fit either of those slots. Where can I get this type of cable so that I can run CD audio through my GUS? ------------------------------ End of The GUS Daily Digest V22 #9 ********************************** To post to tomorrow's digest: To (un)subscribe or get help: To contact a human (last resort): FTP Sites Archive Directories --------- ------------------- Main N.American Site: ftp.orst.edu pub/packages/gravis wuarchive.wustl.edu systems/ibmpc/ultrasound Main Asian Site: nctuccca.edu.tw PC/ultrasound Main European Site: src.doc.ic.ac.uk packages/ultrasound Main Australian Site: ftp.mpx.com.au /ultrasound/general /ultrasound/submit South African Site: ftp.sun.ac.za /pub/packages/ultrasound Submissions: archive.epas.utoronto.ca pub/pc/ultrasound/submit Newly Validated Files: archive.epas.utoronto.ca pub/pc/ultrasound Mirrors: garbo.uwasa.fi mirror/ultrasound ftp.st.nepean.uws.edu.au pc/ultrasound ftp.luth.se pub/msdos/ultrasound Gopher Sites Menu directory ------------ -------------- Main Site: src.doc.ic.ac.uk packages/ultrasound WWW Pages --------- Main Site: http://www.xmission.com/~grue/gus.html Main European Site: http://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/packages/ultrasound/ Main Australian Site: http://ftp.mpx.com.au/archive/ultrasound/general/ http://ftp.mpx.com.au/archive/ultrasound/submit/ http://ftp.mpx.com.au/gravis.html Mirrors: http://www.st.nepean.uws.edu.au/pub/pc/ultrasound/ GUS digest: http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~itam/digest.html MailServer For Archive Access: Email to Email to New Submit Files Mailing List: Email to with content "subscribe epas-list " Hints: - Get the FAQ from the FTP sites or the request server. - Mail to for info about other GUS related mailing lists (programmers, musicians, etc.).